Comments on: Vote. NOW. http://www.afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/ Natural Hair, Beauty, Fashion and Makeup Blog Mon, 02 May 2016 15:54:37 +0000 hourly 1 By: Claudette http://www.afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-156984 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:59:12 +0000 http://afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-156984 As an educated African-American woman, I feel that people EXPECT me to vote for Obama. Well, guess what? I refuse to vote for him and will definitely stay home on Election day. Why? Because I think that OBAMA IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT. I refuse to fall for this sweet talker in a suit.

So what if the man can deliver a speech? Who cares? Can he save this economy? Will he do the right thing in Iraq? Will he put money back into my 401k? I doubt it. He’ll probably follow the advice of his more experienced Cabinet members and follow their lead. What experience does he bring to the table? None whatsoever. He had time to pen two memoirs and couldn’t vote decisively in the Senate or write a bill to benefit his fellow Americans. Why? If he was so great, why didn’t he do anything notable in his two years in The Senate? Biden would have made a better president. Clinton would have made a better president. Paul would have made a better President. With his experience, McCain would make a better president (too bad he’s a Republican).

I feel that Obama does not represent me as a Black American and I would not like him to represent America as the president.

Sorry Bella, but Michelle Obama is over-rated in my opinion. She has a bitter disposition, an unhappy tone, and has an underlying resentment that I find unappealing as a woman. I also don’t think that she’s First Lady material. She is not and will never be the next Jackie O. 🙁

I think that if Obama was 100% white, most of us wouldn’t have given him the time of day. Blacks are voting the race card, and I refuse to do that. Obama does NOT have this black woman’s vote in his pocket. I’m not going to fall for it. Black or not, Obama is not ready.

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By: Facts And Opinions About This Gwen Ifill Drama | afrobella http://www.afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155919 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:18:50 +0000 http://afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155919 […] him reveals an immediately positive bias. See, this goes back to what I was writing about in my previous political post this week — the assumption that because you’re black, you’re backing […]

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By: iamnotstarjones http://www.afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155912 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:41:15 +0000 http://afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155912 I wish one of the third party candidates would speak the truth about what has to truly happen to change our current system.

I saw their convention on CSPAN and I was flummoxed by how they were aping the Republican and Democrat parties with their marketing of their various brands and I have to say I was turned off.

Ummmm
Nader, McKinney, Paul need to get up and tell the American public the truth repeatedly and explain honestly that we will need a major shift in consciousness to change our current way of life (i.e. Americans should never have to pay the price for their conspicuous consumption).

Take the discussion of oil…
why is it heresy to advocate for championing and funding alternative fuel sources before drilling for oil in America? Because candidates are funded by lobbyists for oil companies and are terrified of voicing the truth.

I want an independent candidate to make those things plain and put the onus back on the American people to be responsible and proactive about getting our country back.

I have not seen that and if I did, I would definitely vote for a third party candidate.

Quite possibly 2008 will be my last time voting for a major party candidate and I can live with that.

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By: Yan http://www.afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155723 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:36:54 +0000 http://afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155723 I love that this is such a respectful forum. Well done Bella!

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By: Bsquared86 http://www.afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155684 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:44:15 +0000 http://afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155684 Great Blog Afrobella! I actually just blogged about folks not voting, it’s been on my mind for a while. Anyway, I just wanted to slip in and say that I will be voting for the first time in November. And, the vote will be for Obama. And if I hear one more person say that they’re not voting for him just because OTHER PEOPLE will think they’re only voting for him because they are black I will SCREAM! lol.

Why am I voting for Obama? Because his ideals align with my own. I’m black but, please believe, I would not be voting for him if he thought like McCain or Bush. I’m also a democrat, but if I didn’t agree with his plans or opinions I wouldn’t vote for him. Shoot, I wouldn’t be a democrat if I didn’t agree with their general ideals and goals. Am I proud that he is a black man? Of course. He’s setting a great example and making history to boot. Am I supposed to be ashamed of that? I’m sorry, but I’m not. Is he the black savior? The next MLK? New age Malcolm X? Of course not. He’s just a man that wants to affect change as the President of the US and I have faith in his plan. To say that people like me are only voting for Obama because he is black is so insulting. So, because I’m black and voting for him makes me stupid now? A sheep? Spare me.

I only seem to hear this, “Blacks are voting for Obama b/c he’s black” thing from other blacks, lol. Everybody is so worried about black folks (all 12% or so of us) voting for Obama b/c he is black but nobody is worried about the other folks who are not voting for him because he’s black. Or the people only voting for McCain because he is white? Are folks questioning McCain supporters? What about the women that are supporting McCain/Palin just because Palin is a woman? The disgruntled Hillary supporters that jumped on the Palin bandwagon even though alot of her opinions oppose Hillary’s and their own? I guess they all get a free pass, huh? Shame on you black people for voting for a black man that you actually agree with! LOL. Once again, spare me.

I tried to skim through the discussion here and will probably sink my teeth into it after I leave this comment because it seems quite interesting. Nothing in this comment is in response to any comments, just the blog post. People have their reasons for voting (or not) and who they’re voting for (or not voting for) and I am sure that ever poster here is already set in their opinions and decisions. I’m not trying to debate anyone on this, I honestly don’t think I’ll be coming back and sifting through comments looking for responses, lol. Just throwing my two cents in on the subject!

I just want to echo that more than just the presidential tickets will be on the ballots! What about the other smaller elections and issues? You may not want to vote for president but don’t forget about everything else!

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By: qselby http://www.afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155382 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:45:31 +0000 http://afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155382 @edessedesigns

I agree that there should be a personal since of accountablility, but I tend to look at the black community and the problems retrospectively. What people so soon forget, is how things got the way they are. Yeah, I shouldn’t be able to get into a school if my grades are not as good as a white counterpart. This just makes me wonder…why was such a system as affirmative action even necessary(and other bailout plans)? I look around at my classmates at school and see why daily..many of them are the first to even go to college due to an inherently racist and prejudice system that is the U.S. Lucky me, my mother had a chance to got to school, but she had to do it on her own(much like myself) because her mother only and a highschool education, which only stressed home economics..basically setting her up to be a maid. In fact, I’m sure many bella’s on here have family members who have all contribute to our rich history just being ‘the first black to do something’. The point is we were not allowed to do so much here and while our privileged counterparts were allowed to move ahead black people were trying to catch up. This country asking us to be ‘accountable’ is kind of like asking a Spaniard or any other foreigner to learn English, meanwhile they are hiding the books and they move them when you do find them. No offense to anyone at all.
It isn’t just recently that we have been trying get the same jobs, education,finances etc etc etc, as our counterparts….the black wall street in Greenwood Tulsa, Olklahoma was full of ambitious/ entrepreneurs. But due to I guess, jealousy and a crazy since of entitlement, the city was burned down by angry whites…I guess that was the way you got an equal playing field back in the day. To stop this race riot, the government dropped a bomb on this city (1 of 2 domestic bombings). How about we hold this country accountable for the effects of situations like Greenwood that they just swept under the rug.
I’m sure you have heard about R. Donahue Peebles, the black Donald Trump, which he hates being referred to as. He is rolling in wealth but he didn’t get there with the help of his parents money, unlike Donald Trump. His father was the bellman at the very hotel he (Peebles) owns today in DC and his mother was a realtor and poor. Sociolgy does not even teach you that moving from one social class to another is possible. Usually, whatever class a person is born into is the one in which they will remain. Thank goodness he didn’t believe this or maybe just never even heard the notion. He must of had one of those sugary sweet dreams that you spoke of and succeeded against all odds. Thank goodness the Democrats/Independents are visionaries!

That is why the whole accountablility thing is shaky for me. There is an individual since to the word as well as societal. We have made a lot of progress and mind you without the same resources as others which is astounding with in itself. All those “bailouts” were put into place because someone got slighted because someone else was effin up or effin somebody over….to fix screw ups out of guilt or change of heart(or maybe just policy).

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By: edessedesigns http://www.afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155323 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:39:12 +0000 http://afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155323 dettygirl: Thank you for your input. I don’t mean to come down on the black community. I just used it as a point of reference. Every community has its problems.

Huemanity: thank you for your brave and intelligent posts. I visited your blog and love your perspective and what you do.

I have no doubts about Barack being an intelligent person, my problem is that he has based “hope and change” on the same promises that don’t change the problem.

Capitol Hill needs to be gutted, those senators and congress men have been sitting up there for years ripping you and I off–Barack Obama and John McCain included and are in bed with those very mortgage companies they are trying to protect. Somebody needs to turn the light on in that roach-infested apartment and Obama nor McCain can or will do it, because, they would be scurrying about just like everyone else.

I will admit, I was very excited by Mrs. Palin–given that she could possibly be one of the ones who could “turn on the light” Unfortunately, she seems to be……blah. Also, I was disappointed that both candidates WANTED a bailout. Let free markets adjust themselves. Let the bubble burst and let’s make decisions from a realistic point of view.

I’m totally voting third party–end of discussion. I don’t want the blood of the incoming regime on my hands as I don’t believe that at this time, either one of the primary candidates have what it takes to truly change this country.

As an aside–It was really nice to hear everyone’s point of view. I hate that term Obamabot too just like I hate the term “sell out” when I tell people I don’t support Obama.

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By: Shones http://www.afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155300 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:46:09 +0000 http://afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155300 To those who might be considering NOT voting for any reason — and everyone else — PLEASE remember the low vote or down-ballot angle — all the important state and local elections which appear at the bottom of your ballot. These are important local elections which impact you directly. Many people don’t know anything about the names further down the ballot. when it comes to these elections, your one vote, and that of your friends, could really be the deciding factor!

For more info, please visit this link to the story I heard about it on NPR (specifically on http://www.wunc.org): http://wunc.org/programs/news/archive/NLL0930_vote_low.mp3/view.

God bless.

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By: dettygirl http://www.afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155299 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:45:27 +0000 http://afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155299 Have you guys even slept??? haha but this is a very interesting discourse; I have enjoyed everyone’s opinion & point of view. @ edessedesigns, I must say I agree with your healthcare perspective. As a healthcare manager, I do think more personal responsiblity is necessary in the community(black and otherwise). And insurance companies are taking notice: There has been a steady decline in reimbursemet for obesity-related and chronic diseases ( basically anything you can prevent by exercising and eating healthier) over the last 5 years. This results in higher costs being passed on to you. I think there needs to be a middle-class healthcare program for those who aren’t poor enough to recieve Medicaid and those who are rich enough to afford private health insurance.I feel that out of pocket healthcare expenses affect these people the most. So don’t expect someone, ANYONE, to deliver you out of a situation. Do your part, however small, and continue to vote for what you believe in.

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By: Gisele http://www.afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155283 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:25:47 +0000 http://afrobella.com/2008/09/29/vote-now/#comment-155283 To Get Togetha: I’m gonna put it out there and say that what disheartens me are black bloggers work their damndest to discredit him; almost to the point of salty-ness. Bloggers who have lost my readership cause I refuse to support that type of ignorance. I can’t.

I totally understand what you are saying. I asked one particular Black blogger (who has made it his business to refer to every Barack supporter as “Obamaholics”) if he would have a problem if Barack wins. He rejoices in every poll where Barack’s numbers go down, every report of race being a major factor with a ‘i told ya so, ya;ll need to wake up’ crowing. I finally stopped reading all that crabs in the barrel nonsense.

Barack is the favorite candidate even GLOBALLY, and yet we have Americans who either don’t want him in office because of his skin tone, or just do not realize the importance of this election. Amazing, and if he loses it will be a prime example of how racism and laziness hurts everyone when we all have to suffer 4 more years of GOP lies.

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